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ACC Tournament 1st Round Open Thread

Yes, it has not been a season to remember for UNC fans, but for for basketball junkies, which I suspect a lot of us are, the next 10 days are about the best 10 days of the year.  March Madness has begun!!  Here’s hoping for more performances like Anthony Johnson had last night against Weber St.

ACC Tournament Schedule

Virginia versus Boston College (noon)

Miami versus Wake Forest  (2:00 PM)

UNC versus Georgia Tech (7:00 PM)

NC State versus Clemson (9:00 PM)

Comments if you have them…

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At least someone is winning something...

That someone would be Harrison Barnes, and the something is the 2010 Morgan Wooten Player of the Year. In an entry to his ESPN blog, Christopher Lawlor notes that the award is not only a reward for Barnes’ skill on the court, but also his character off of it:

The future Tar Heel bagged the prestigious honor for his presence on and off the court. When he’s not electrifying crowds in Iowa gyms, Barnes is involved in DECA (marketing, management, entrepreneurship club) and Students Helping Eliminate Poverty and Hunger (SHEPH). He also participated in the 2009 Mid-Iowa Community Action Agency Food Drive, serves as an algebra tutor and leads a weekly Bible study.

There is still no word yet on how Barnes’ is progressing developing a cure for the swine flu or balancing the US budget…  But seriously, it does sound like Barnes  is a terrific kid, on top of being an elite talent, and it will be a lot of fun watching his tenure as a Tar Heel.  More importantly, one does not become involved with entrepreneurial activities if they are uncomfortable being a leader and unwilling to put in the work, both of which are qualities that the Tar Heel nation will welcome with open arms next season.

Congratulations, Mr. Barnes!!

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Expectations vs. Reality

As the clock winds down on a forgettable 2010 season, it bears looking back and seeing, upon reflection, what the expectations were for this season vs. the reality:

Continue reading Expectations vs. Reality

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ACC Basketball Roundtable

The ACC & SEC Blog asked me to be a part of a roundtable discussion. Here are my answers to their probing questions.

1. The national perception is that the ACC is down this year. Duke has been in the top 10 all year, but no one else has come close. Does the conference deserve this reputation? Why or Why not?

In past seasons the ACC has gotten by with some top heaviness and average teams beneath.  Generally is is UNC and Duke ranked in the top ten, a couple of others in the 10-25 spots in the polls and a few more who get into the NCAA Tournament beyond those.  This season that is not the case.  Duke might be top ten and in line for a #1 seed but they also have losses to Wisconsin as well as getting throttled by Georgetown. Maryland has a loss to William & Mary on their schedule. After that you have FSU, Virginia Tech and Clemson as the next most likely candidates to make the NCAA Tournament and even then some folks are balking on the Hokies.  So, yes the league is down but one could argue it has been down for awhile but UNC’s three Final Four runs and two titles alongside Duke still being #1/2 seed material during that span has masked it.

2. Does Duke have what it takes to make a run to a National Championship? Why or Why not?

Yes and no.  On one hand, Duke has three prolific scorers, a solid PG and excellent team defense.  Those are most of the ingredients you need.  The lack of an interior scoring threat puts them into a tough position. Duke is too dependent on perimeter scoring which could go cold at the wrong time. Duke also lacks a significant enough post presence to stop a team with a balanced offense. That is not to say Duke cannot get favorable matchups and get to the Final Four where anything could happen but at some point they are going to run across a Kansas or Kentucky who has all the parts and it will be very tough to overcome the Blue Devils’ state deficiencies.

3. We know Duke and Maryland are in, but who else gets in from the ACC? Will we see any surprises on Selection Sunday?

I am thinking six teams from the ACC get in. Georgia Tech’s late season swoon will probably end up costing them a bid unless the Jackets can do some damage at the ACC Tournament.  Georgia Tech is 3-6 since the beginning of February with their only wins being over UNC, NC State and Boston College, all at home.  Wake Forest also lost to UNC and NC State but is 5-4 during the same span with a win over Clemson to close the season. The Deacs other two losses of late have been to Virginia Tech and FSU, hardly bad by any measure. FSU, Virginia Tech and Clemson should all be in which means we are spared Seth Greenberg’s perpetual groveling/whining.

4. What is the biggest surprise of the season (good or bad)?

Bad: UNC. That is all I have to say about that.

Good: The fact Greivis Vasquez turned into an elite player, not just in the ACC but on the national level. Vasquez could be good at times but the fact he has put together a complete season surprised me.

5. A couple of teams have had disappointing seasons. Whose seat is the hottest?

No one appears to be in trouble this season. Paul Hewitt at Georgia Tech should be fired like two years ago but he snagged a sweet rollover contract following the Jackets’ trip to the title game in 2004 which carries an expensive buyout. There is little chance GT moves on that in the current economic conditions. NCSU’s Sidney Lowe is being given more time and rightfully so seeing what he has in the recruiting pipeline. The coach no one really wants to discuss as being on the hot seat is Wake’s Dino Gaudio. Some of that has to do with Skip Prosser’s untimely death which thrust Gaudio into the head coaching position.  However, despite having talented teams over the past two seasons, Gaudio has lost control of the ship to a certain extent as the season wore on. Last season was far worse as Wake went from ranked #1 at one point to losing out of the NCAA Tournament to a #13 seed. This season the Deacs played well enough early on but again there are issues with chemistry and unhappy players leading to a four game losing streak which Wake managed to break versus Clemson. The one saving grace is, Wake probably has played well enough to go to the NCAA Tournament unless they find a way to lose to Miami. For now, everyone is safe but come next season there could be a reckoning.

6. Who is your player and coach of the year? Why?

POY: Greivis Vasquez, MD
COY: Gary Williams, MD

I think Vasquez was the best player in the ACC and I think he meant more to his team as far as elevating the Terps to a regular season co-championship with Duke.  Jon Scheyer was good but he clearly had more help along the way.

Gary Williams did more with less than anyone else in the ACC. Granted having good guard play solves a variety of ills in college basketball but Williams got significant contributions out of freshman Jordan Williams and a slew of role players.  Besides, Maryland was picked for fifth and finished tied for first.

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Ginyard: Yeah, We Were Screwed From Day One

Pretty much. 

Adam Lucas picked up a few choice quotes from Marcus Ginyard yesterday. I am speculating that Ginyard must have received some blessing from Roy Williams to let it all hang out.  This is where I miss Danny Freakin’ Green since his quotes would have been far more entertaining.  Then again, if this team had Danny Freakin’ Green, they would not be 16-15 and not just because of Green’s on the court awesomeness. Anyway, I am not a big believer in coincidences so you can begin drawing up the conspiracy theories on Ginyard letting it drop that UNC got throttled by 30 in the preseason scrimmage versus Vanderbilt mainly because no one gave a crap while Roy is talking about player’s not being committed to the instruction they received. And for those who have wondered about one of those vaunted “players only meetings”  to cure what ailed them? They had one then and apparently it did not matter. SMH

Two weeks after media day, Williams’s team had a closed scrimmage against an outside opponent. They were clearly outplayed, leading to a players-only meeting when the team returned to Chapel Hill.

“That scrimmage was terrible,” Marcus Ginyard said. “That was the whole season right there in that scrimmage. It was exactly the way this whole year has gone down. We were playing a good team and we weren’t ready to play when we got there. We got our butt kicked the very first time we stepped on the court together.”

“We were like, `There is no way we can get beat by 30 points the very first time we’re playing,’” he said. “How are we not super-pumped to be playing? As soon as we got back we had a meeting in the locker room. We said, `This is how it’s supposed to go down. We have to play better than this and more together than this.’ Even more indicative of the year, nothing really changed after that.”

On one hand, Roy says the players are not committed to doing the things they are instructed to do during games.  Ginyard is saying they lacked fire, never changed attitudes following an embarrassing scrimmage loss and lacked any cohesion as a team.

With that kind of crap going on, it makes you wonder how they made it to 16-15.

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Quotes of the Day

Roy Williams:

“I haven’t talked to them since the game. I’m not saying they’ve got to grow to 6-11 from 6-1 or that they’ve got to start shooting left-handed instead of right-handed, but if I’m screaming at a guy to get back in defensive balance and I said that on Oct. 15, that’s long enough. You need to change. You need to do it. If I’m saying, ‘Get to the board,’ and you’re a 3-4-5 – on Oct. 15 we said that 3-4-5 need to go the board every time – I don’t need to yell that anymore. You need to change.

“It’s like as a kid when you’re starting to put your finger into a [light] socket and Mom or Dad says, ‘No,’ and slaps your hand, at some point you’ve got to decide to stop putting your finger into the socket. Mommy and Daddy don’t need to say no anymore. You need to decide to stop doing it yourself. That’s exactly what I was talking about. If I’m over there yelling, ‘Get a hand up!’ and I was saying that Oct. 15, then I’m the dumb one because I’m still yelling the same thing.”


” It’s frustrating, there’s no question about that, but that’s also laying the blame. And the blame’s on all of us; it’s not just the kids. But I am tired. I’m tired of saying the same thing over and over and over. If you get into this University, you’re fairly intelligent, because I got a degree from here. At some point you’ve got to change. That’s education. You have got to change your behavior.”

Jackie Manuel’s Posse

I don’t think Roy has done a fantastic job with this team but I’ll happily support the kind of mistakes he has made this season. To me, Roy saw an 8-8 ACC season coming from the very beginning of practice. He pushed this team to be better than that and instead things spiraled out of control. The buttons he pushed were all wrong. He kept trying to put someone else in…someone who was very good at basketball in…and that player was not on the bench. Suddenly, this was a team that could not create good shots. This is a team full of players trying to do things they had never done before. Every single player who got minutes was being asked do take a huge step up from last season and most of them were unable to make that step. We see this team at times look like they have never ever played the game of basketball before. The rotation probably should have been set by December. John Henson and Leslie McDonald should have played more than they did. They both make tons of errors but who on this team doesn’t? The Wear twins got way too many minutes. I’m sure this could go on all day but it is easy to see that Roy kept tinkering because he was trying to make this team excellent. That is all he has known and he was not about to stop trying.  Unfortunately even Roy Williams, savior of North Carolina basketball, can not turn water into wine. “But he brought in the water” says Dook asshat. Fair enough, I suppose. Pardon me if I give Roy Williams a pass, considering 4 of last years starting 5 are making money playing basketball this season. He signed those guys too. Maybe I’d rather have John Wall than David Wear but maybe I wouldn’t.

I’m going to stop here but my point to all this rambling is simple. Taking a longer view of things helps me see that things could be a whole lot worse. In fact, things are pretty rad.  In some ways this is just like any other season. We play a game on a Thursday in March that we must win to keep playing (competitive basketball). If we lose ‘will he stay or go’ questions will begin. Dook will flame out in the first few rounds. Jon Scheyer will cry. Some team will upset Kentucky. It will get warm. Harrison Barnes will show up.

I’m going to smile and try to enjoy whatever we have left of the defending champs. Join me?

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No UNC Player On All-ACC Teams...For The First Time Ever

Yeah, that’s about right.

For the first time in the history of the ACC, not a single Tar Heel was  named to the three All-ACC teams as voted by the members of the media.  Just for good measure there was no one on the all-defensive or all-freshman teams either. How bad is this? Jason Capel made the 3rd team in 2002.

A couple explanations for how this happened besides the simplistic: everyone sucked.

The first is Ed Davis likely ends up at least on the third team had he finished the season. I think his stats would have been just as good, if not better than FSU’s Solomon Alabi’s and he has that nice media halo around him of having been established as an elite player. Davis was 18th in voting so it stands to reason he makes the jump had he played.

The other is I would really like to have seen what John Henson could have done had he been playing his natural position all season or at worst since the beginning of conference play. I am thinking he would have played well enough to garner all-freshman honors and possibly sneak onto the all-defensive team.

Having addressed those two let me say this is in no way surprising.  Of the players left to choose from, no one really deserved it or play consistently enough to warrant it. There is a possible argument you could make for Will Graves on the third team ahead of FSU’s Solomon Alabi.  Graves averaged(ACC games only) 11.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg and was fourth in the ACC in three point percentage at 38%. Alabi averaged 10.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg and 1.9 bpg in ACC games.  The problem is Alabi had a string of games early in the ACC season where he scored in double figures plus FSU finished 3rd and had Chris Singleton also on the third team. Graves also lacks the media halo.

I was going to mention that Deon Thompson was 18th in conference scoring which might garner him some consideration but I imagine I would have a full blow riot in the comments section if I did that so best to let that be.

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