Archive for June, 2007

How the First Round Picks Fared Against UNC

As I was watching the NBA Draft last night I noticed there were eight players who went up against UNC this past season at one point or another. Four players faced UNC twice during ACC play. Two players faced the Heels in the NCAA Tournament and two others played against UNC in one non-conference match-up:

4. Mike Conley, Ohio State: 8 points, 8 assists, 3 TOs in a 98-89 loss at UNC

5. Jeff Green, Georgetown: 22 points, 9 rebounds in a 96-84(OT) win over UNC in the East Regional Final

12. Thaddeus Young, Georgia Tech: 22 points in a 77-61 loss at UNC; 25 points(5-6 3-pt shooting) in a 84-77 win over UNC

14. Al Thornton, Florida State: 29 points, 12 rebounds in a 84-58 loss at UNC; 12 points, 6 rebs in a 73-58 loss to UNC in the ACC Quarterfinals.

16. Nick Young, USC: 15 points, 7 rebs, 6 assists in a 74-64 loss to UNC in the East Regional Semifinal

19. Javaris Critteton, Georgia Tech: 7 points, 7 TOs in a 77-61 loss at UNC; 13 points, 11 assists in a 84-77 win over UNC.

21. Daequan Cook, Ohio State: 20 points(4-5 3-pt shooting), 5 rebs in a 98-89 loss at UNC

22. Jared Dudley, Boston College: 22 points in a 77-72 loss to UNC; 20 points, 6 rebs in a 71-56 loss to UNC in the ACC Semifinals

UNC was 7-2 against these players’ respective teams. Of course one of those losses was the infamous debacle in East Rutherford which saw Green nearly get a double-double. Based on the stats, most of these players performed really well against UNC which is either a testament of their skill or the fact UNC did not play great defense. I think it is more of the former. It is interesting to note that the Ohio State game was early in the season where Conley was a non-factor in terms of scoring but did a great job distributing the ball. Cook had a monster night and I thought he was an incredible shooter. As it turns out he declined as the season progressed but still got drafted in the first round. Critteton had a horrid game in Chapel Hill but absolutely lit UNC up in Atlanta which is evidence of his progression through the season. Al Thornton was huge in the game at Chapel Hill but was largely silent in the ACC Tournament game partly due to the fact he fouled out. And Nick Young was key to USC controlling most of the Sweet Sixteen game versus UNC prior to the Trojans running out of gas. Overall the eight first round draft picks averaged 23.8 points versus UNC.

One more quick note.  Here are the second rounders UNC faced:

32. Gabe Pruitt, USC
33. Marcus Williams, Arizona
37. Josh McRoberts, Duke (twice)
59. D.J. Strawberry, Maryland

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Wright Traded to Golden State; Terry Traded to Dallas[UPDATED]

So this is how it all shook out. Brandan Wright was initially drafted by Charlotte but by the end of the evening he was traded to Golden State which is probably fine for Wright given the up-tempo style they play. The problem with the trade from the Charlotte side is, according 850’s blog, Richardson is owed $51 million which is a rather huge slice to take on. At any rate, Wright now follows the path of Antawn Jamison who was drafted by Toronto but traded to Golden State for UNC teammate Vince Carter back in 1998.

Reyshawn Terry had to wait all the way to pick #44 to hear his name called. Terry is heading to Orlando where he gets to team up J.J Redick that is assuming he makes it through camp and gets a contract. Maybe while he is there he can give J.J. some pointers on making shots in big games

UPDATE: Terry has apparently been traded to Dallas which I missed because I wrote my post before checking any other websites besides 850’s.  Considering Dallas is a very good team and also has Jerry Stackhouse, hopefully Terry can get a spot.

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Wright to Charlotte; Terry Still Waiting(Live Blog!)

Okay, I have NBA Live 2006 on my PC and the first thing I did was takeover the Charlotte Bobcats and trade all the players until I assembled a starting lineup which included Raymond Felton, Sean May, Rasheed Wallace, Marvin Williams and a custom player using my name. Michael Jordan is doing the same thing with the real Bobcats apparently. Charlotte takes Brandan Wright eighth overall and that makes him the 3rd Tar Heel taken by the Bobcats in the past three years. Of course we also need to wait and see how the evening shakes out here since Rick Bonnell at the Charlotte Observer is reporting that the Bobcats may be shopping Wright, possibly as part of that rumored Kevin Garnett to Phoenix deal which is close to having involved every team in the NBA at this point.

Continue reading ‘Wright to Charlotte; Terry Still Waiting(Live Blog!)’

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ESPN.com Doesn’t Like Brandan Wright

If you have read any draft coverage on ESPN.com you quickly realize that alleged NBA Draft guru Chad Ford as well as Bill Simmons do not like Brandan Wright as witnessed by the following quip in yesterday’s Interactive Mock Draft(which I refuse to link per policy):

8. CHARLOTTE BOBCATS

Chad Ford selects: Brandan Wright, PF, North Carolina

Michael Jordan is on the clock.

“Michael? Michael?”

Someone call the golf course …

“Oh, Michael there you are. Who are you taking in the NBA draft?”

“The what?”

“The NBA draft tomorrow.”

“It’s tomorrow?”

“Yeah. Who do you like?”

“I like the big, athletic kid who’s really raw, refuses to rebound and has his motor running on idle for 30 minutes a night.”

“You mean Brandan Wright or Kwame Brown?”

First of all, I have commented myself on the lack of effort from Wright but I also stated that I thought he improved in this area. I also think there are legitimate issues he has to work on like free throws and a 10-15 foot jumper. And I think everyone knows he is raw and has lots of upside.  That is the reason he came out early because the so called experts out there told him he was a lottery pick and the NBA drafts on potential.  The thing that miffs me about Ford and Simmons here, and in other articles I have read, is they seemingly have chosen Wright as the draft pick they use for jokes.  How can they reasonably compare him to Kwame Brown considering he has yet to play a game in the NBA?  How is it these guys already proclaim that Wright is a bust when he is being drafted on potential and by their own admission the draft is a crapshoot?  These are cheap shots leveled at a 19 year old by a two columnists who I bet have watched about as much UNC basketball this past season as Tar Heel Wife did.

I just find the way they present Wright to be wholly unprofessional and intellectually dishonest considering the unpredictability of the draft as well as the propensity of picks based on raw potential.  I can only hope Wright turns into a solid player just so I can trot this post back out and laugh at these two so called experts.

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But What About Reyshawn Terry?

I just realized that I have been far too Brandan Wright focused here. There is another Tar Heel in this draft in the person of Reyshawn Terry who impressed some folks at Orlando. From David Glenn:

He joined Dudley as a top performer in Orlando, showcasing his versatile offensive game of 3-pointers, mid-range jumpers and drives to the hoop. Unlike the overwhelming majority of projected draft picks, Terry was not the best player on his college team, and he played a complementary role at UNC while deferring to Wright, Tyler Hansbrough and others. Nevertheless, Terry’s pre-draft workouts certified him as a sure-fire pick, and even a possibility for the (late) first round.

And according to the WSJ, Terry thinks he will be drafted:

Terry, a 6-8 forward, will now rest and wait until Thursday when the NBA Draft will take place. He has received no assurance from any team that it will take him in the two rounds, but he’s confident that someone will pick him after his performances in the workouts.

“I’m definitely going to be drafted,” Terry said. “That’s not even a question.”

I think most people would agree Terry has the skills for the NBA as well as the body.  He is extremely athletic, does a great job on defense and rebounds.  The issue you get with Terry is his decision making, which if you go back and read any number of live blogs here at THF you will see several instances where I nearly threw the laptop against the wall over some boneheaded play.  That being said, Terry was huge in the ACC Championship and NCAA Tournament despite being sick in the 2nd Round and Sweet 16.  It also should be noted that I would have been more comfortable with him taking the three against Georgetown at the end of regulation than Ellington.  So, on one level I think he has a decent killer/clutch instinct.  On the other hand he does tend to commit the stupid foul or turnover.  It will all come down to how he did in the non-basketball portion of his workout and what kind of impression he made.

I hope he does well since he gave up a lot taking a backseat to the younger players on the team this past season.

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Penn Senior Rates Brandan Wright

The New York Times enlisted the help of former Penn basketball player Steve Danley to evaluate some of the draft picks ahead of the NBA Draft on Thursday. Here is what he had to say about Brandan Wright:

BRANDAN WRIGHT, FORWARD, NORTH CAROLINA Forecasting Wright’s career is a tough call. He has the talent to be good. When I guarded him in a game in Chapel Hill, he displayed great touch around the basket and an effective spin move, and he dropped in hook shots like a kid tossing pennies in a wishing well.

Here’s the catch. People are rating him the third-best player in the draft. But when we played North Carolina, we considered him the third-biggest threat on the team. We were more worried about Ty Lawson and Tyler Hansbrough. Wright is an awful shooter and ball handler. We didn’t bother to chase him outside eight feet, allowing his defender to play off him and sag into the lane.

It’s not that I don’t think he’ll be a contributor down the road for somebody. It’s just that in this draft, a top-five pick has to be better than a complementary player.

Yeah, how did that work out for you? UNC beat Penn by 38 in Chapel Hill. As it turns out the mistake Penn made was not considering Reyshawn Terry a threat since he lit the Quakers up for 19 points and nine rebounds in only 16 minutes of playing time. Lawson, who was rated as either Threat #1 or #2, actually turned out to be a non-factor according to the box score. Hansbrough had 19 and Wayne Ellington had 17 while Wright had 12. In other words I am not sure how much you can knock a player down in the draft based on how he may have fit into the Penn game plan in a match-up they lost by nearly 40 points. I would consider Lawson the #1 threat on the team in a college basketball game because he is the lynch pin to the whole UNC offense but I am not sure that necessarily makes him a better than Wright when talking about NBA prospects. I would also point out that the game in question happened in early January. I think we saw plenty from Wright during the next three months to understand how good he is. The biggest knock on Wright is his strength, which was a problem at times(see Michigan State) and his effort on the court(which I thought was 100 times better than by season’s end.)

I do not disagree with the overall premise that Wright may not be a top five pick. ESPN.com’s Chad Ford had him as low as #10 yesterday which means Wright may have made a mistake in coming out this season. I think this situation serves as further evidence that for all the information UNC gathers on behalf of Wright, he still makes a decision without knowing some key facts. And while he could have gone through the process without an agent and withdrawn last week, I would think it is harder for him to get a true read on his status unless he shows himself to be in the draft for good by hiring an agent. If Wright was projected #10 back in May, I think he comes back to Chapel Hill. The problem was during that period he was being shown at #3 based on a projection which could not account for the draft order or other factors. So on the basis he throws his hat into the ring even though everything could change withing six weeks. I hope the prognosticators are wrong and Wright goes top five. However, I still think the process should be changed to allow these players to get as much information as possible before making their decision final.

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Nice to See It Rates So Highly

Being a UNC fan and by nature a huge college basketball fan there are few things finer than Duke-UNC or watching either the ACC or NCAA Tournament.  Apparently ESPN.com Page 2 columnist Jim Caple agrees with this assertion as he ranks 101 things all sports fans must experience before they die. Here are the relevant ones:

5. NCAA subregional (March, various sites). The only problem with March Madness is that the championship game too seldom lives up to the previous two weeks of cuticle-devouring excitement. For the best experience, steer clear of the actual Final Four and go to a subregional instead. You get more games (four the first day), more upsets, more spirit and enough excitement to leave even Dick Vitale hoarse.

19. Duke-North Carolina basketball game (winter, Chapel Hill or Durham, N.C.). There are college basketball rivalries and then there is Duke-Carolina, which makes that Yankees/Red Sox thing seem like a simple misunderstanding. Cramming into old Cameron Indoor Stadium or marveling at the banners for all the Tar Heels greats in the Dean Dome is a college basketball experience not to be missed — even if you have to camp out in K-Ville for a couple of weeks to get a ticket. (Just check with a doctor first to make sure you have all your shots.)

24. ACC basketball tournament (March, various sites). The best way to tune up for your office NCAA pool is at this classic tournament, especially when it’s on Tobacco Road and so lively it should come with a surgeon general’s warning advising pregnant women and people with high blood pressure to stay away.

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I’ve Been Drafted!!!

Well, sort of.  It looks like I was taken by the New Jersey Nets at #17 in the Winning the Turnover Battle Blogger Draft in an attempt to keep UNC alum Vince Carter happy to he will re-sign with the team:

#17. New Jersey Nets: Tar Heel Fan of Tar Heel Fan
The Nets are looking for any way possible to ensure that Vince Carter stays in town. Maybe this will help.

Anyone happen to know a good agent I can hire?

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Never To Early To Think About Hoops

At least not for ACC Now. Of course all this does is make me itch for the start of the season to happen next week instead of in November. Caulton Tudor and JP Giglio offer up their opinions on player and team rankings. Here is the capsule for UNC who they pick to finish 1st in the ACC:

2006-07 record: 31-7, 11-5 (1st)

Players returning (on scholarship): G Ty Lawson, G Wayne Ellington, F William Graves, F Deon Thompson, F Alex Stepheson, G Marcus Ginyard, G Danny Green, G Bobby Frasor, F Tyler Hansbrough, G Quentin Thomas, F Mike Copeland
Players lost: F Brandan Wright (NBA), F Reyshawn Terry, G Wes Miller
Recruits: none
Telep’s analysis: “They selectively went after a two of the top guys in the class — Kevin Love [who signed with UCLA] and Patrick Patterson [Kentucky] — and they didn’t get either one.”
Projected starting lineup: Lawson, Ellington, Ginyard, Thompson, Hansbrough
ACC schedule: Play twice — Duke, N.C. State, BC, Clemson, FSU; Home only — Maryland, Va. Tech, Wake; Road only — Ga. Tech, Miami, UVa

Outlook: Duke collapsed in the second half of the regional final in 1998. The Blue Devils responded the next season by going 19-0 against the ACC and reaching the national championship game. Will UNC unleash a similar fury in ‘08? If Ty Lawson improves his fitness, and assertiveness, the Heels have a chance to be that good. This team needs to establish a hierarchy — make Tyler Hansbrough’s the clear-cut No. 1 option as he was a freshman.That means Psycho T has to grab this team by the larynx as he did against Michigan State in the second round of the NCAA Tournament. If it’s a close game — the only kind UNC lost — then he needs to demand the ball. UNC needs to win or lose with its fastball and that’s Hansbrough.

Everything flows from there. Lawson, with relief from a healthy Bobby Frasor, runs the offense; Wayne Ellington and Danny Green take the jumpers; Marcus Ginyard handles the plumbing; and Deon Thompson and Alex Stepheson have to eat Brandan Wright’s lost minutes and rebounds. Don’t try to be a team you’re not. See the last 11 minutes of the last game of 2007 season as a refresher.

We all expected big things from UNC in 2007, and while winning the ACC title, they fell short of delivering a special season. As an impending banner at the Smith Center will attest, UNC tied for the regular-season title, losing five games — one more than supposed down season the year before. So it was a good year, not a great one, especially when so much was made of the 25-year cycle — 1957, 1982 — by the school itself. Losing to Georgetown, of all teams, provided an ironic ending. This group, minus Wright and the sporadic Terry, gets a second chance — maybe even with Georgetown — to deliver a different ending.

This is as correct an analysis as I have heard about this team for next season. In fact I could not have defined the roles any better than Giglio did except to say I hope we see more perimeter shooting from Bobby Frasor. I completely agree that Tyler has to be the #1 option and what is more than that he needs to step up and be aggressive. Not that he is not the most focused and aggressive player in the ACC, but there were many games where he seemed to blend in and lean on Wright a little more. The MSU game, as pointed out above, is a prime example of the kind of game Tyler needs to have night in and night out. Lawson has to be the instigator of the offense with penetration and the ability to hit a dagger three pointer if necessary. If Green and Ellington can provide the perimeter shooting with Thompson and Stepheson complimenting Hansbrough and Ginyard being the lock down defender then I see man similarities to 2005. The questions you have in that comparison are whether Green/Ellington can create offense like McCants and who will fill the role of Marvin Williams by grabbing that key rebound and putback or simply being a handful for defenses to figure out how to guard. I think the depth and personnel are there and I will go on record now by saying I think anything short of the Final Four is a failure for this team barring injury.

The player rankings were interesting. Tudor chose Hansbrough as the top player in the ACC while Giglio went with UVa’s Sean Singletary. In fact Tudor chose NC State’s Brandon Costner second. Based on what I saw last season, Costner could be the best player in the ACC before the season is done. He is incredibly versatile and strong. I would think his role and need to produce could very well match Singletary’s though some of that hinges on the production NC State gets from the point and their freshmen.

Another interesting note is the schedule UNC has. Much to our chagrin as fans, we only get UVa once which means we get Lawson v. Singletary only one time and that game in Charlottesville. The other part of it is if you take Tudor’s picks then UNC would play the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 7th place teams twice which would be a very tough schedule. Based on Giglio’s picks it would be the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, and 11th place teams UNC would play twice, which is somewhat less vexing. Since I am nowhere even close to examining this I would say off the cuff Giglio is probably closer to being right. Still I think have six of your games versus the 2-4 teams in the conference is probably a tougher schedule than UNC got last season.

The Top Six
The Bottom Six
Player Rankings

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CWS Finals Game 2: OSU 9 #3 UNC 3

You cannot win if you cannot get hits with runners in scoring position.

It was not meant to be.  A real shame to make it this far two years in a row and not win the title at least once.

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